Lithium-ion batteries are here to save public transportation! Just kidding, the problems with vehicle-scale batteries go from bad to worse when the technology is applied large, heavy buses. Battery-electric buses are the US government's latest investment of choice, and we discuss why these buses are inferior to the much older and much more reliable trolleybus. Trolleybuses with charging-in-motion are better for the environment, better for the roads, and best of all, cheaper! They are the electrification solution that denser urban areas with mid to high bus traffic need, with battery-only buses serving a secondary role.
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Timestamps
- 00:00 Intro
- 00:46 The News
- 00:46 MBTA Orange Line shutdown progress
- 04:47 What is a trolleybus?
- 06:25 Switches
- 07:30 Two wires
- 07:52 Charging-in-motion
- 08:25 Trolleybuses in former Eastern Bloc countries
- 10:17 Trolleybuses in North America
[2]
- 11:02 Boston
- 12:23 Dayton, Ohio [13]
- 13:06 History
[1]
- 14:30 Streetcar replacement
- 15:25 Survivors
- 16:18 Interurban trolleybuses [14]
- 17:35 The battery-electric bus
[9]
- 18:12 Off-wire useful for some routes
- 19:30 Electrification good
- 20:37 Huge batteries bad
- 22:35 Metra and BNSF's battery locomotives [16] [17] [18]
- 24:19 Charging means more vehicles are needed
- 26:13 Cost of charging infrastructure
- 26:49 Catching fire [11] [21]
- 30:20 The University of Utah's one BEB
- 31:15 BEBs work, but trolleys are better
- 32:12 Smaller, safer batteries
- 32:41 Long lifespan
- 33:17 Battery mining bad
- 34:30 Cost [5]
- 36:34 MBTA [7] [22]
- 37:10 Limitations of trolleys
- 37:22 Infrastructure costs
- 39:20 Weather
- 40:32 NIMBYs
- 42:41 The best solution
- 43:09 Salt Lake City: 200 South [24]
- 45:34 Outro
References & notes
- [1] Wikipedia: Trolleybus § History
- [2] Wikipedia: Trolleybus usage by country § North America
- [3] Low-Tech Magazine: Get wired (again): Trolleybuses and Trolleytrucks
- [4] Siemens: On the road with electric power
- [5] Urban Transport Magazine: Bus Electrification: A comparison of capital costs
- [6] King County Metro: King County Trolley Bus Evaluation
- [7] Streetsblog MASS: Batteries, Or Overhead Wires? The Debate Over Zero-Emission Bus Technology
- [8] WHYY: SEPTA's cracking battery buses raise questions about the future of electric transit
- [9] Wikipedia: Battery electric bus
- [10] Albuquerque Journal: ABQ's electric bus trial run
- [11] CT Insider: NTSB joins probe of CT’s 'rare' electric bus fire; only 18 verified incidents globally since 2010
- [12] The Guardian: Could trolleybuses be the incredible solution for greener public transit?
- [13] Wikipedia: Trolleybuses in Dayton
- [14] The Onion: Obama Replaces Costly High-Speed Rail Plan With High-Speed Bus Plan
- [15] Bus lane enforcement cameras
- [16] Trains: Metra board approves deal for up to six battery locomotives
- [17] METRO Magazine: Metra to Create Battery-Powered Locomotives
- [18] BNSF: BNSF leads the charge on testing battery-electric locomotive
- [19] USAID-NREL: Electrifying transit: A guidebook for implementing battery electric buses § 3.3 Charging
- [20] NEMA: Charging Infrastructure for Battery-Electric Buses
- [21] Brock Archer: High Voltage Vehicle Firefighting § 5:45 Extinguishing agents
- [22] Watertown News: MBTA's Electric "Trolley" Buses to be Removed from Service Due to Road Projects
- [23] MBTA: Invitation for bids - 4/0 grooved bronze trolley wire
- [24] SLC.gov: 200 South Reconstruction - Transit Priority Corridor & Complete Street